Post by Tony Held on Jan 29, 2017 13:00:31 GMT -6
Patients experiencing severe metabolic acidosis primarily compensate with hyperventilation (respiratory alkalosis). This results in low EtCO2 readings and low pH readings which would normally be counterintuitive.
It makes sense when you consider that their metabolic state is creating the acidosis. The only way the body has to compensate is by offloading as much CO2 as it possibly can. So their pH may be 7.1 with an EtCO2 of 10 and a respiratory rate of 30.
Why is this important?
If we make the decision to intubate these patients, we are inducing an episode of apnea. While their oxygen saturation may be just fine during that episode of apnea, their CO2 will sharply rise. Hypercapnia is normally well tolerated if rapidly reversed post-intubation, but the metabolic acidosis population is different than the respiratory acidosis population. Their CO2 being low is the compensatory mechanism to their metabolic acidosis, meaning that any rise in CO2 will sharply drop their pH. It is commonly accepted that pH < 6.8 will most often result in lethal dysrhythmia and pH's < 7.0 are associated with increased mortality. As an aside, I found no pubmed info proving those numbers and even found an argument against those numbers here
Take care in inducing apnea for any purpose in patients exhibiting respiratory alkalosis. Investigate the cause and treat accordingly. Check here for a fun mnemonic: MUDPILES. If you're going down the intubation route, be very careful and explore some alternative airway techniques like awake intubation, Ketamine Supported Intubation, or non-invasive positive pressure support (NIPPV).
The ninja-level provider in you might be thinking: "What if I temporize the situation with a little Sodium Bicarbonate?" Well it's good you asked, because you're thinking of alternative therapies to this terrible scenario. The problem with Sodium Bicarbonate is it needs the pulmonary circuit to be working well in order to perform the chemical reaction. Inducing apnea will still result in a sharp drop in their pH from a different starting point. You may make your numbers better, but there are a whole slew of consequences that come with it, not to mention it's never been proven to be beneficial. Check out Chris Nickson's article on this very item here.
References:
Severe acidosis does not predict fatal outcomes in intensive care unit patients: a retrospective analysis.
Paz Y, Zegerman A, Sorkine P, Matot I.
J Crit Care. 2014 Apr;29(2):210-3. doi: 10.1016/j.jcrc.2013.11.007
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24360596
Acid Base Online Tutorial
University of Connecticut
Faculty Advisor: Dr. Steven Angus
fitsweb.uchc.edu/student/selectives/TimurGraham/Anion_Gap.html
When RSI isn’t the Right SI
April 22nd, 2014
by reuben in airway
emupdates.com/2014/04/22/when-rsi-isnt-the-right-si/
Sodium Bicarbonate and Diabetic Ketoacidosis
Chris Nickson
lifeinthefastlane.com/ccc/sodium-bicarbonate-and-diabetic-ketoacidosis/
It makes sense when you consider that their metabolic state is creating the acidosis. The only way the body has to compensate is by offloading as much CO2 as it possibly can. So their pH may be 7.1 with an EtCO2 of 10 and a respiratory rate of 30.
Why is this important?
If we make the decision to intubate these patients, we are inducing an episode of apnea. While their oxygen saturation may be just fine during that episode of apnea, their CO2 will sharply rise. Hypercapnia is normally well tolerated if rapidly reversed post-intubation, but the metabolic acidosis population is different than the respiratory acidosis population. Their CO2 being low is the compensatory mechanism to their metabolic acidosis, meaning that any rise in CO2 will sharply drop their pH. It is commonly accepted that pH < 6.8 will most often result in lethal dysrhythmia and pH's < 7.0 are associated with increased mortality. As an aside, I found no pubmed info proving those numbers and even found an argument against those numbers here
Take care in inducing apnea for any purpose in patients exhibiting respiratory alkalosis. Investigate the cause and treat accordingly. Check here for a fun mnemonic: MUDPILES. If you're going down the intubation route, be very careful and explore some alternative airway techniques like awake intubation, Ketamine Supported Intubation, or non-invasive positive pressure support (NIPPV).
The ninja-level provider in you might be thinking: "What if I temporize the situation with a little Sodium Bicarbonate?" Well it's good you asked, because you're thinking of alternative therapies to this terrible scenario. The problem with Sodium Bicarbonate is it needs the pulmonary circuit to be working well in order to perform the chemical reaction. Inducing apnea will still result in a sharp drop in their pH from a different starting point. You may make your numbers better, but there are a whole slew of consequences that come with it, not to mention it's never been proven to be beneficial. Check out Chris Nickson's article on this very item here.
References:
Severe acidosis does not predict fatal outcomes in intensive care unit patients: a retrospective analysis.
Paz Y, Zegerman A, Sorkine P, Matot I.
J Crit Care. 2014 Apr;29(2):210-3. doi: 10.1016/j.jcrc.2013.11.007
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24360596
Acid Base Online Tutorial
University of Connecticut
Faculty Advisor: Dr. Steven Angus
fitsweb.uchc.edu/student/selectives/TimurGraham/Anion_Gap.html
When RSI isn’t the Right SI
April 22nd, 2014
by reuben in airway
emupdates.com/2014/04/22/when-rsi-isnt-the-right-si/
Sodium Bicarbonate and Diabetic Ketoacidosis
Chris Nickson
lifeinthefastlane.com/ccc/sodium-bicarbonate-and-diabetic-ketoacidosis/